Answer the questions below:
Share your thoughts on the Focus on Delinquency "The Chicken or the Egg?" You can find this on page 157 of the text.
What concept, thought, position, information in Chapter 7 caught your attention most and why?
What are your thoughts on the racial makeup of gangs according to figure 8.4 in the text? Is this similar to what you perceived or did you have a different perception?
In your personal opinion; why do youth join gangs?
Are there any truly meaningful alternatives to gangs today for lower-class youths? Explain!
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MY THOUGHTS ON THE FOCUS OF DELINQUENCY “THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG?”
In my opinion bad parents breed bad children and causes delinquency. I think the parents of today have forgotten the meaning of “Tough Love” and no one wants to sit down and talk to their children anymore these days. Parents of today are too worried about being cool with their kids or being their friends. Our job is to be parents and if we are doing what we are suppose to be doing as parents; the rest will fall in place. Poor parenting does have a direct effect on a child’s delinquent behavior, but for a child who is receiving parental support and guidance and still have behavior problems, then it is up to that parent to increase his/her/their parent support and control. Parents become detached from their children when they do not care or just don’t want to be bothered with the delinquent child, not because that child’s behavior is becoming increasingly threatening. I admit there are some parents that are going to give up on their children and say to hell with it and let them fall victim to the foster care system, but there are still some parents that are going to fight for their kids. Parents play an important role in a child’s upbringing and how that child will turn out. I know and believe that my children future depends on the values that I instill in them and I refuse to allow my children to become failures/delinquents on my watch.
WHAT CONCEPT, THOUGHT, POSITION, INFORMATION IN CHAPTE 7 CAUGHT MY ATTENTIO MOST AND WHY?
In chapter 7 the book talked about Inconsistent and Ineffective Supervision. It specifically stated that “when mothers who threaten to discipline, but failed to carry it out were more likely to have delinquent children than those who were consistent in their discipline. I TOTALLY DISAGREE. What makes them think that fathers don't fail to carry out their threats of discipline, I know, it is because mothers of today do most of the discipline and have more interactions with their children than the fathers. First of all it pissed me off that they only referenced mothers. Second of all, as a mother you have history with your child, and just because you tell your child you are going to discipline them in whichever way you choose and you don’t, is not going to make that child a delinquent. I for example had the type of mother that would threaten me with discipline, and just because she did not get me that one time or deliver on every threat didn't make me think I could go out and repeat that action consequence free. Believe me she had gotten me in the past, and I knew what the future could possibly hold, so just because she let one punishment slip, didn’t mean I could go out and do whatever I wanted to and I sure did not even attempt to entertain the thought of well she did not get me the last time, so I know nothing is going go happen this time if I do whatever. A child does not have to constantly be supervised in order to stay out of trouble. My children know what they are suppose to do when they are not in my presence, when they are next door at the neighbors houses, and when they are at school, need I say more. If your child knows the consequences of their bad behaviors and you as a parent had disciplined them when necessary, then you don’t have to be consistent with every threat of discipline.
MY THOUGHTS ON FIGURE 8.4.
I agree with the chart in figure 8.4. In almost every city and suburban area, Hispanics are predominate among gangs. In rural areas African Americans are going to be more predominate or dominated by blacks usually because small historically black towns are found in rural area/counties.
IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, WHY DO YOUTH JOIN GANGS?
In my personal opinion, youth join gangs for a sense of belonging, and some just join because their buddy is in a gang, it makes them look tough and a lot of youth feel that belonging to a gang is a sense of protection.
ARE THERE TRULY ANY MEANINGFUL ALTERNATIVES TO GANGS TODAY FOR LOWERCLASS YOUTH, EXPLAIN.
There are alternatives to gangs. There are already a lot of after school programs in place for children and youth, but who is going to direct these kids toward the programs that are available. Today everybody wants something for something and there is not a lot of people out there will to give up their free time and try and spearhead youth in the right direction to go until their child gets caught up in something. It is just a matter of informing youth of the programs available that will help to deter them from the gangs. Getting them involved in an activity that they enjoy and that will absorb most of their free time will be a big deterrence from joining a gang or getting involved with the group of people.
My thoughts on the focus of deliquency "The Chicken or the Egg"
In my opinion I think Juvenile behavior problems can develop from all sort of ways. I believe they develop genetically, their surrounding environment, and peer pressure at school.
Genetically- one bad egg introduces itself to another bad egg.
Environmentally- Repetitive violent behavior in the home.
Peer Pressure- Groupies
I think parenting skills are important and each family has to treat each child differently in order to direct the child the right direction.
What concept, thought, position, information in Chapter 7 caught your attention most and why?
In the section on “Divorce Reconsidered”, being a single parent of a teenage son I do believe boys are affected by the loss of their biological father not being a part of their lives. I can relate to this section.
My thoughts on the racial makeup of gangs according to Fig. 8.4
I was surprised to learn Hispanics are more gang orientated than Blacks. While more Hispanics are coming to American more gangs will develop.
Why do youth join gangs?
I think some join for protection. Other reasons can be companionship, peer pressure, intimidation, having a violent home life, no supervision or community ties.
Alternatives to gangs today for lower class youth.
No. Just because kids are living in low poverty does not predict they are liable to join a gang. I think African American kids living in low-class are more prone to burglary and robbery than gang relations. That’s my opinion.
The part in chapter 7 that caught my attention the most is the effects of abuse,I personally didn know that people that have been abused seem to have effects of mental health and delinquent behaviors.I always felt they were probly quieter and less active but nothin that severe.
My perception of the figure 8.4 is that it was quit surprising see that the hispanics are atva higher crime rates than the blacks.
I feel that a lot of our youths join gangs is because they are lookin for that sense of security from the closest thing they can get from a family to form a bond that most of them are lacking at home.
Yes i do feel that there is alternatives programs for our youth that are lower class,there are boys and girls clubs where they can interact with peers that are going through the same thing that they are.
The Chicken and The Egg
I really like that story for the simple fact that imtend to believe that we as people usally do get our shaping and moding from our enviroment and not so much just the household,I exspecially like where they go on to say that there are children who grew up in single parent households that are successful as the dual parent households.
The book asked which comes first bad parents or bad kids? bad parents. I believe parenting has a big effect on children in their delinquent behavior because monkey see monkey do. Many children fall within the steps of their parents.
WHY DO YOUTHS JOIN GANGS?
I believe that youth join gangs for many reasons such as may see struggle in the family so they try to find a quick come up to help out the parent, peer pressure, recognition, the love one may feel from members, lack of education, and not fitting in with others.
ARE THERE ANY TRULY MEANINGFUL ALTERNATIVES TO GANGS TODAY FOR LOWER CLASS YOUTHS?
Yes there are plenty of alternatives for joining a gang. I think that we should keep our children busy doing something because when children get bored they always find something to get into.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON FIGURE 8.4 IN THE TEXT.
My thoughts on figure 8.4 i do agree with surburban areas and larger cities african americans and latinos have the highest gang membership.
WHAT CONCEPT OR THOUGHT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION?
The concept that caught my attention is when it says that a child is prone to antisocial behavior due to one or both parents being absent. I do agree that a broken home can cause antisocial behavior.
1. Yes, I feel that bad parenting cause delinquency problem and I also feel like society helps the problem, but if the child is taught at home then soceity would not have a lot of the effects it does on juveniles.
2. Family breakups was the one that most caught my eye, because I could relate to that. I had to deal with this as child.
3.Yes, this similar to what I would have thought but in todays society I would think Hispanic gangs are more on the rise and the ones that are considered other and African American not to far ahead of the gangs
4. I believe juveniles join gangs for numerous of reason, attention, love, family, and peer pressure, but mainly I feel they join for love and family.
arthur
1.Children raised by parents who lack education who lack proper parenting skills are more at rick the those who that have supportive.
2. page 154 The effects of Divorce because broken homes and delinquency is higher then normal.
3.Gangs are a way of life when you are raised in low income housing the chance of you joining is very high and if thats all you see thats all you know.
4.Kids alienated kids jion gangs.Anomic social,and economic coditions encourage gang activity.
5.Yes its brings fun and boys and support that they looking for.
Lisa Miller
My thoughts on the chicken and the egg is that parents are examples and stewards of their children. Parents must step up to the plate and be PARENTS!! they musn't allow their children to become delinquent and become proper role models for their children so their children won't seek outside sources which may be destructive. We all are products of our environment. Parents must be aware of the environment they place their children, and provide a enivironment that is condusive to raising productive citizens.
The thought that caught my attention was divorce. It mentioned in the text that boys seem to be more affected by the post-divorce and abscence of the father than girls. A divorced father who remains actively involved in his child's life reduces his son's chances of delinquency. After my divorce I noticed a change in my eldest son. However, his father remained active in his life and he graduated from high-school, and after high-school he became employed and since he has always held a job, My son also has never been arrested or convicted of any felony. So I believed that statement as truth.
The racial make-up in Figure 8.4 was enlightening. I felt African Americans outnumbered any other race particulary in larger cities in gang affiliation. Blacks seem to dominate media reporting. To learn that Hispanics perdominate gang membership was informative.
Why do youth join gangs? Personal safety, fun and support. They also join gangs looking for affirmation and respect, and lack of parental involvement.
I believe that youth join gangs for the most obvious reasons. there's no positive structure and guidelines for them to learn and live by. they haven't been taught positive decision making skills, so when a negative situation presents itself they have no way of reasoning through it and are sucked into a life that a lot grow out of and regret.
I believe there are several alternatives to joining gangs, the problem is the information isn't in the hands of the kids who really need it. With todays conservative approach to social issues..alot of programs are being scaled back or cut out all together. I believe that if we were to show these kids they have options a lot of them would choose the right thing.
I believe that youth join gangs for the most obvious reasons. there's no positive structure and guidelines for them to learn and live by. they haven't been taught positive decision making skills, so when a negative situation presents itself they have no way of reasoning through it and are sucked into a life that a lot grow out of and regret.
I believe there are several alternatives to joining gangs, the problem is the information isn't in the hands of the kids who really need it. With todays conservative approach to social issues..alot of programs are being scaled back or cut out all together. I believe that if we were to show these kids they have options a lot of them would choose the right thing.
RANDY ALLEN
1) I belive that the "chicken or the egg theory" can have some truth because if the parents are bad and can produce bad children.Its up to the parents to be uplifting parents and not friends. Parenting starts young not when they are almost adults, discipline is a essential part of parenting.Then communication can take place.
2)The information on sexual abuse caught my attention because of the long term affects it can have on children even when they reach ault hood. They are at risk of stress, anxiety and suffer post-tranmatic mental problems. As a adults they become more suicidal.
3)The graph 8.4 shows that blacks & hispanics make up the majority of gang population, this does not suprise me. This two ethic groups come from poor income families and may turn to gangs to support them as their family in order to survive and believe that is the only life they are meant to live.
4)Youths may join gangs for the accepatnce,and my come from troubled families, it looks cool and fast money.This is glmaorized in music and tv, its not supprising that the life style appeals to them. But as my farther always told me fast money ain't good money.
5) I believe there are some meaningful alternatives for gangs, but most people may not agree. I feel that military give youths the structure they need to get away from the street gang life. It establish discipline because most youths in gangs don't have discipline or self control.Prison is designed to reform people but are not actualy working for the young people, becoming career criminals, military shows gang youths another way of surviving and being strong. Military is not for everyone but when a youth goes to jail ever since he was 12 and went back every time to he hits 36 and decides he wants to change... the system is not working it time to try something else. My uncle is a product to the system if he had other choices he may have been a different man.
Takia Gross
"the chicken & the egg"
IN my opinion on this concept is that bad children are either born as the "bad seed" or they grow up as they see what their parents are doing.
thoughts on the racial makeup of gangs according to Fig. 8.4
when i looked at the charts i was actually happy that it is stats that say that blacks are not the highest in gangs. I always thought that hispanics were more into gangs than blacks.
why do youths join gangs?
I feel that there are a number of reasons why youths join gangs such as; they are in need of attention, not enough love shown at home, and because they have a lot of free time on their hands, or because they feel the need to be apart of something.
Alternatives to gangs today for lower class youth
I believe that there are alternatives for lower class youth in some citites such as; being part of the boys & girls club, goin on church activites, the YMCA, or joing sports in there school. But if they are like me and from a small community then its really not an alternative, but to be in a gang because its nothing else to do..
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